Jeffery and Bill start with breakfast burritos and old trucks, then dig into the Avedon documentary and whether art and platforms still matter. They talk about losing and regaining creative excitement, the Wet Print app’s 3.0 alpha, a tether tool beta, and Photographer of the Week Hannah Harbour, who works with Polaroid emulsion lifts.
Bill Wadman and Jeffery Saddoris talk about Bill’s new Mac app WetPrint, a virtual darkroom he built with AI coding tools, and what it’s done for his creative energy. They also cover hobbies and flow, the Keith Jarrett documentary and Cologne 75, the upcoming Avedon documentary, and Photographer of the Week Claire Luxton.
Add Yourself to the WetPrint for iPad TestFlight
Ron Howard “Avedon” Documentary
Keith Jarrett. – The Art of Improvisation
Bill and Jeffery gripe about Apple’s new pricing and gear decisions, then get into Norman Rockwell’s staged reference photography after a Vermont museum trip, and wander through social media algorithms, creative burnout, and letting go and moving onto the next project, before wrapping with photographer of the week Frank Horvat.
Photograph search of Norman Rockwell Archives
Norman Rockwell “Behind the Camera” book on Amazon
Bill and Jeffery grumble about Apple’s Mac mini and Mac Studio price increases and Jeffery’s love for the Supernote Manta, then spend most of the episode remembering photographer Jay Maisel, touring stories and photos from his cavernous bank-building archive and debating what makes a photographic legacy. They wrap up with this week’s Photographer of the Week, Life magazine shooter Nina Leen.
John Loengard portraits of photographers
Pictures of Jay Maisel’s bank building
Bill and Jeffery dig into where creative legitimacy actually comes from now that gatekeepers like ASMP and Magnum have lost their grip, and talk about why they stopped chasing metrics and just make the show for its own sake. They also swap stories about a QR-code standoff at the Air and Space Museum and their shared guilt over unfinished projects and letting themselves have fun, before closing with Photographer of the Week Hiromix, whose 1990s film self-portraits look decades ahead of Instagram.
Bill and Jeffery talk through a buggy macOS beta, a $10 thrift-store flatbed scanner, and the endless search for a good digital asset manager, then get into why they both might be pulling back from Instagram and just taking photos for themselves again. They also swap stories about vintage audio gear, dream up a DJ-style internet radio show, wrestle with headphone pad mysteries, and close with Photographer of the Week Szilveszter Mako’s whimsical, paper-textured portraits.
Cool House Jeffery Used to Visit
Bill and Jeffery ramble from brushes with celebrities and growing up before the internet to a deep dive into old Mold-A-Rama toy machines, vanishing physical media, and why modern life feels so overwhelming, before wrapping up with this week’s featured photographer, Arthur Elgort.
Episode 375 opens with a personal reflection on the death of photographer William Coupon, a friend Bill made through the show years ago, and a broader conversation on grief and mentorship. Bill also describes vibe-coding a custom Mac app with Claude Code to automate uploading episodes and drafting WordPress posts. The back half covers David Hockney’s photographic collage work and how scale affects whether a piece works as a print versus a wall-sized object, plus a preview of an upcoming episode on the new Spielberg film.
Ansel Adams in AI color? Yuck! Do we ever get past the fear of complete failure and should we? Color grading footage and getting lost. Montana native Robert Osborn is our Photographer of the Week.
Danziger response to the AI Ansel Adams print
Degas “Woman seat beside a vase of flowers”
Bill’s portrait of Alon at a piano
Burden video of “Shoot” (User discretion advised)
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